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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Parakin View Post
    I would suggest a gentler reaction since we do like what they are doing. I would not want them to believe they must say something like they are "A private community for parents of children and youth involved with an organization that cannot be named". When I look at their FB page, I don't see it trying to appear to be an official CFC group. It's more like a Honda Civic owners forum that obviously is not an official Honda channel. I think what they have is okay: they clearly state they are just "for parents of children and youth in the CFC" and nothing "we are an official CFC group" (unless I missed something in all their pages). But if we absolutely must, I would suggest asking them to just add a statement that their FB group is independent of the CFC.

    UPDATE: I just read more of their page. At the bottom, it has the disclaimer: "The group is parent led. Moderators or members may or may not reflect the views of the Chess Federation of Canada". Is that not sufficient?
    I think it is. We really should not be heavy handed in such cases as groups like this is likely where we can look for future voting members, organizers and CFC officials. They are our allies (they want us to succeed so that their kids can succeed) and also the canary in the coal mine which tell us about problems we might be having early on. As I mentioned, every youth coordinator in recent memory was also a chess parent who crossed over to help the CFC improve its youth programs. I am here as CFC president because I was concerned about the youth portfolio as a chess instructor and coach of mostly youth players. It was the impetus of stepping forward at the Canadian Closed in 2011 to volunteer to be Masters representative when no one else was interested.

    The main limitation on the CFC is in the number of volunteers willing and able to help.

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    What about the voting for the National Appeals Commitee?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aris Marghetis View Post
    What about the voting for the National Appeals Commitee?!
    There were five nominees for five spot thus an automatic acclamation. Maybe not all accepted their nominations but that can be done later.
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    Although the likelihood of the CFC being liable for any issues with children and parents is remote it is not impossible as we live in a litigious world. Accordingly I suggest that the group change its name. A suggestion would be "Parental support for Canadian chess". The group should not be using the name Chess federation of Canada in its title.
    Les Bunning, Ontario lawyer and CFC past president

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    There were five nominees for five spot thus an automatic acclamation. Maybe not all accepted their nominations but that can be done later.
    I understand your viewpoint. I was thinking that an official announcement couldn't hurt, especially in that, at least, it confirmed logging of the nominations.

    Anyway, thanks for replying.

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    I would think any connection with porn or other non-chess material would be the result of hackers rather than anything intentionally posted but no question net security is important and while the average member or VM doesn't know about it, Chris has done an outstanding job for years in keeping that sort of thing off this site. As one of the moderators I have seen the suspended accounts list and no question the bad guys have attempted to gain access here multiple times. (Either directly to the forum or by creating e-mails involving 'chess.ca' which can be used for all kinds of non-chess activities. (I'm not aware the e-mail thing has ever happened with the CFC though it HAS with my business and we definitely do not want our accounts being used by spam-bots or worse)

    Again, the CFC has its name and network of members and organizers and we need to be careful with allowing those we're not in direct contact with to use a name including ours. In my opinion the new junior coordinator should reach out to them as soon as possible after this meeting. If they can help our junior program (and I mean nationally more so than just in a given city) all well and good.

    For sure we should be paying attention going forward.

    By the way Assembly members probably don't know but should that the CFC owns the domain chess.ca and organizations wanting to use a domain name based on it (for example bc.chess.ca or on.chess.ca) need both the CFC's consent and that of every other sub-domain (I don't know of any other than provincial affiliates - as BCCF secretary I had to consent when the Newfoundland federation wanted nl.chess.ca though they're now using nlchess.ca)

    So my advice is be welcoming but be very very careful as we do not want to risk the exclusivity of the CFC name.

    Good discussion - glad we're having it.

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    As long as it stays that way and posters don't use it as a bully pulpit for demanding the CFC does this or that my opinion is that it should be ok. I would like to see the new junior coordinator monitoring it (and if they choose to make the occasional informational posting fine with me).

    If their approach changes we may need to say something but going Rambo-like over the top is undoubtedly the wrong approach. The last thing we need is for things to degenerate and become what I call "Chesstalk on a bad day"!

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    Thumbs up Canada has a World Champion!

    Congatulations to Shawn Rodrigue-Lemieux who convincingly won World Youth Chess Championships 2022 - Open Under 18 - with GM performance!
    http://chess-results.com/tnr655571.a...et=YES&flag=30

    Way to go, Shawn!
    Thanks,
    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    I think it is. We really should not be heavy handed in such cases as groups like this is likely where we can look for future voting members, organizers and CFC officials. They are our allies (they want us to succeed so that their kids can succeed) and also the canary in the coal mine which tell us about problems we might be having early on. As I mentioned, every youth coordinator in recent memory was also a chess parent who crossed over to help the CFC improve its youth programs. I am here as CFC president because I was concerned about the youth portfolio as a chess instructor and coach of mostly youth players. It was the impetus of stepping forward at the Canadian Closed in 2011 to volunteer to be Masters representative when no one else was interested.

    The main limitation on the CFC is in the number of volunteers willing and able to help.
    I also agree, however the disclaimer should be in the forefront where it can be seen at the beginning instead of at the bottom of the page. Perhaps someone could suggest that.

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    I'd like to bring up the issue of National Candidate Master and other Certificates. One of our players has been waiting for since mid-May, 2022 for their Certificate and I'm told it will be issued sometime after this CFC meeting. Once a player has obtained their certification, in my view, it's incumbent upon the CFC to, at the earliest, recognize this achievement. An early recognition assists in encouraging the player to attain their next level and provides them with their deserved recognition within the chess community. I'm told that the CFC issues Certificates in batches after a number of candidates have obtained their certification level. Personally, I think this procedure, as noted above, doesn't reflect the CFC's overall promotion of chess in our communities. Bottom line is that I'd like the CFC to issue a Certificate within 14 days of the player's obtaining their certification. My thoughts.

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