looking for old versions of the ordered rating list

[Aris Marghetis]

Hi there, every time the CFC updates our ratings, they also update, and it seems actually overwrite, the ordered rating list, where one can easily find where they rank amongst everyone, from the top GMs to the beginners.

So, I am wondering if anyone happened to save the ordered rating list from time to time? I am especially interested near the beginning of this decade.

Thanks in advance, and best regards, arismarghetis at rogers dot com

[Christopher Mallon]

Hi Aris,

Web Archive has a whole bunch, as far back as 2001.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...s/ratorder.txt

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Chris, maybe you know how old is the rating/crosstable database? Is it possible to retrieve info older than 1996-7? I am looking for Toronto Closed and reserves results.


The Toronto Closed Chess Championships

[Christopher Mallon]

Only by going through whatever paper records might still remain.

[Aris Marghetis]

Thanks Chris, that's a great site (it didn't go back far enough, so still looking!)

[Erik Malmsten]

Chris, maybe you know how old is the rating/crosstable database? Is it possible to retrieve info older than 1996-7? I am looking for Toronto Closed and reserves results.


The Toronto Closed Chess Championships

Hi Egis,

I have the results of the Toronto Closed, or the Toronto Championships back to 1859.

[Erik Malmsten]

Hi Egis,

I have the results of the Toronto Closed, or the Toronto Championships back to 1859.

I posted the history of the main players in the history of the Toronto Closed Chess Championship on the GTCL website. Intro:

The Toronto Closed Chess Championship has been running annually, with only a couple of breaks, for a 100 years. The oldest record of a Toronto Championship was 1854 (unearthed by Larry Fyffe). Until recently, it was a tournament of the top players in Toronto. Multiple winners include Harry Belson 7, Geza Fuster, Frank Anderson, George Eastman 6, and Lawrence Day 5.

It's hard to say which was the strongest one. The highest rated ones were in 1997 and '98, average rating of 2330 and 2332, won by Nickoloff (2606 performance rating!) and 15-year-old Igor Zugic. Other youth to have won the Championship include Tomas Krnan, Stephen Glinert, Todd Southam, Peter Nurmi, Frank Anderson, and John S. Morrison; Geza Fuster would be the oldest winner at 61 in 1971. Lawrence Day won an all-master Championship in 1995. In 1987 the average rating was 2301 and first was shared by Harry Kaminker and Gordon Taylor; in 1986 average was 2273 and won by Ian Findlay. Zvonko Vranesic won in 1972 against an average rating of 2173 which, given inflation might be 2300 today, and 9-0 in 1959. Bob Krstic in 1974 was the biggest upset winner, the lowest rated in a field that included 3 IMs!

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Thnx to Erik for sharing his archives. Results back to 1963 might be seen at
http://torontochess.org/drupal/node/143