27. Motion 2011-B - DISCUSSION

[Lyle Craver]

27. Motion 2011-B: (moved by Vladimir Birarov, seconded by Valer Demian:
Motion to replace current wording of Handbook paragraph 1012 with following new wording:

1012.Participation in the World Events:

INVITED PLAYERS

(a) Canadian Youth Chess Championship (CYCC) is a qualifier to international youth chess competitions.

Top 3 finishers in each section are qualified to become official representatives for:
1) World Youth Chess Championship (WYCC);
2) Pan American Youth Chess Championship;
3) North American Youth Chess Championship.

If the winner is unable to participate, the second place finisher shall be invited to go in his place. If the second place finisher also declines, the highest finisher in the tournament who is willing to participate in the world event (if not rejected by CFC Executive due to the sub paragraph (d)), shall be selected. The CFC Board of Directors shall use an appropriate tie breaking method to break ties if required to determine the order of finish.

All official representatives to WYCC should receive financial support from CFC to reduce their travel expenses.

(b) Players with the Special Rights according to FIDE rules will be eligible to participate at WYCC notwithstanding to their participation at CYCC. In case of participation at CYCC, CFC will pay the cost of transportation for such players to WYCC in full.

ADDITIONAL PLAYERS

(c) 2nd and 3rd prize-winners (including tie-breakers for 2nd and 3rd places) in each category will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds.

(d) All other CYCC participants wishing to participate at WYCC are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation during 15 days after ending of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application in case if the applicant's level at his discretion is significantly lower than the average level of his/her category at WYCC. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $150 to CFC Youth Program fund.

(e) 3 top CFC rated players in each category (by January 1st of the current year) if not able to participate at CYCC due to extraordinary circumstances, and wishing to participate at WYCC, are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation at WYCC before the start of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application at their discretion in case if applicant's circumstances are not valid and/or exceptional. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $300 to CFC Youth Program fund.

[Bob Armstrong]

27. Motion 2011-B: (moved by Vladimir Birarov, seconded by Valer Demian:
Motion to replace current wording of Handbook paragraph 1012 with following new wording:

1012.Participation in the World Events:

INVITED PLAYERS

(a) Canadian Youth Chess Championship (CYCC) is a qualifier to international youth chess competitions.

Top 3 finishers in each section are qualified to become official representatives for:
1) World Youth Chess Championship (WYCC);
2) Pan American Youth Chess Championship;
3) North American Youth Chess Championship.

If the winner is unable to participate, the second place finisher shall be invited to go in his place. If the second place finisher also declines, the highest finisher in the tournament who is willing to participate in the world event (if not rejected by CFC Executive due to the sub paragraph (d)), shall be selected. The CFC Board of Directors shall use an appropriate tie breaking method to break ties if required to determine the order of finish.

All official representatives to WYCC should receive financial support from CFC to reduce their travel expenses.

At present, the winner of a section receives prize money out of entry fees to defray travel expenses to the WYCC. That covers only one participant. This new section says that CFC must also provide funds for the second and third place finishers, since they are going to be the " official " representatives to the Pan American Youth Chess Championship and North American Youth Chess Championship.

QUESTION: Is this motion expecting CFC to come up with these funds out of general revenue?

[/QUOTE](b) Players with the Special Rights according to FIDE rules will be eligible to participate at WYCC notwithstanding to their participation at CYCC. In case of participation at CYCC, CFC will pay the cost of transportation for such players to WYCC in full.[/QUOTE] - ( don't know how people break up the quote into separate parts to comment on different aspects )

This states that even if a former WYCC Champion does not play in the CYCC, or plays and does not come first, CFC must pay ALL transportation cost of theirs to the WYCC.

Question - Is this money to come out of CFC General Revenue?

[/QUOTE] ADDITIONAL PLAYERS

(c) 2nd and 3rd prize-winners (including tie-breakers for 2nd and 3rd places) in each category will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds.

(d) All other CYCC participants wishing to participate at WYCC are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation during 15 days after ending of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application in case if the applicant's level at his discretion is significantly lower than the average level of his/her category at WYCC. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $150 to CFC Youth Program fund.

(e) 3 top CFC rated players in each category (by January 1st of the current year) if not able to participate at CYCC due to extraordinary circumstances, and wishing to participate at WYCC, are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation at WYCC before the start of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application at their discretion in case if applicant's circumstances are not valid and/or exceptional. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $300 to CFC Youth Program fund.[/QUOTE]

Basically, the intent of these sections is to open up the Canadian WYCC team to a large number of participants, so long as they are willing to pay their own way.

QUESTION - What amount of $$ administrative overhead is going to be incurred by the CFC E.D., and volunteer Youth Coordinator and FIDE Representative, by the significant expansion in the size of the team?

Bob

[Christopher Mallon]

I'd feel much more comfortable about this if we could see a huge surplus in the youth program and this was just a way to spend that surplus, rather than it being money off the money tree in our backyard...

[Vladimir Birarov]

At present, the winner of a section receives prize money out of entry fees to defray travel expenses to the WYCC. That covers only one participant. This new section says that CFC must also provide funds for the second and third place finishers, since they are going to be the " official " representatives to the Pan American Youth Chess Championship and North American Youth Chess Championship.

QUESTION: Is this motion expecting CFC to come up with these funds out of general revenue?

Bob,
Text of the motion clearly says "All official representatives to WYCC should receive financial support from CFC to reduce their travel expenses."

Players with the Special Rights according to FIDE rules will be eligible to participate at WYCC notwithstanding to their participation at CYCC. In case of participation at CYCC, CFC will pay the cost of transportation for such players to WYCC in full. ( don't know how people break up the quote into separate parts to comment on different aspects )

This states that even if a former WYCC Champion does not play in the CYCC, or plays and does not come first, CFC must pay ALL transportation cost of theirs to the WYCC.

Question - Is this money to come out of CFC General Revenue?

The idea is to use Youth Program Fund. It means that in (rare ) cases when we'll have "player with the Special Rights" CYCC champions might get less money each.

[Michael Barron]

27. Motion 2011-B: (moved by Vladimir Birarov, seconded by Valer Demian:
Motion to replace current wording of Handbook paragraph 1012 with following new wording:

1012.Participation in the World Events:

INVITED PLAYERS

(a) Canadian Youth Chess Championship (CYCC) is a qualifier to international youth chess competitions.

Top 3 finishers in each section are qualified to become official representatives for:
1) World Youth Chess Championship (WYCC);
2) Pan American Youth Chess Championship;
3) North American Youth Chess Championship.

If the winner is unable to participate, the second place finisher shall be invited to go in his place. If the second place finisher also declines, the highest finisher in the tournament who is willing to participate in the world event (if not rejected by CFC Executive due to the sub paragraph (d)), shall be selected. The CFC Board of Directors shall use an appropriate tie breaking method to break ties if required to determine the order of finish.

All official representatives to WYCC should receive financial support from CFC to reduce their travel expenses.

(b) Players with the Special Rights according to FIDE rules will be eligible to participate at WYCC notwithstanding to their participation at CYCC. In case of participation at CYCC, CFC will pay the cost of transportation for such players to WYCC in full.

ADDITIONAL PLAYERS

(c) 2nd and 3rd prize-winners (including tie-breakers for 2nd and 3rd places) in each category will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds.

(d) All other CYCC participants wishing to participate at WYCC are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation during 15 days after ending of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application in case if the applicant's level at his discretion is significantly lower than the average level of his/her category at WYCC. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $150 to CFC Youth Program fund.

(e) 3 top CFC rated players in each category (by January 1st of the current year) if not able to participate at CYCC due to extraordinary circumstances, and wishing to participate at WYCC, are eligible to submit to CFC their applications for participation at WYCC before the start of CYCC. CFC Executive has the right to reject the application at their discretion in case if applicant's circumstances are not valid and/or exceptional. All players whose applications will be approved will be eligible to participate at WYCC using their own funds plus paying extra fee of $300 to CFC Youth Program fund.

This is a major motion, prepared after lengthy discussion by the CFC Youth Committee.
The intent of the motion - to clarify rules for qualifying Canadian young players to international competitions.

On behalf of the CFC Youth Committee I ask all Governors to vote in favour of this motion.