Olympiad Selection Ratings - National

[Ilia Bluvshtein]

Olympiad starts August 27, 2012
Highest ratings starting March 1, 2010
Ratings for June 17, 2011

Players Title FIDE Canadian Average Games Eligibility Placement Why Not Eligible
Sambuev Bator GM 2517 2753 2635 ≥20 Already Qualified N/A
Bluvshtein Mark GM 2589 2634 2612 0 No 1 Not enough games
Spraggett Kevin GM 2576 2618 2597 ≥20 Yes 2
Gerzhoy Leonid IM 2498 2647 2573 ≥20 Yes 3
Lesiege Alexandre GM 2528 2577 2553 0 No 4 Not enough games
Charbonneau Pascal GM 2517 2585 2551 0 No 5 Not enough games
Tyomkin Dimitri GM 2496 2570 2533 2 No 6 Not enough games
Hansen Eric IM 2425 2612 2519 ≥20 Yes 7
Noritsyn Nikolay IM 2419 2597 2508 ≥20 Yes 8
Roussel-Roozmon Thomas GM 2491 2500 2496 0 No 9 Not enough games
Porper Edward IM 2446 2533 2490 ≥20 Yes 10
Zugic Igor IM 2462 2516 2489 0 No 11 Not enough games
Samsonkin Artem IM 2395 2561 2478 19 No 12 Not enough games
Teplitsky Yan IM 2448 2473 2461 0 No 13 Not enough games
Hebert Jean IM 2414 2486 2450 0 No 14 Not enough games
Panjwani Raja IM 2413 2481 2447 9 No 15 Not enough games
Cheng Bindi FM 2380 2500 2440 7 No 16 Not enough games
Quan Zhe IM 2412 2462 2437 0 No 17 Not enough games
Krnan Tomas IM 2390 2470 2430 0 No 18 Not enough games

[Fred McKim]

Wouldn't Mark have enough FIDE games ?

The handbook says 10 games, was this changed to 20 ?

Can you define the periods used for the rating, and accumulating games played, if different

[Christopher Mallon]

It's showing Mark at 0 games.

[Ilia Bluvshtein]

Wouldn't Mark have enough FIDE games ?
Mark has played enough FIDE rated games but they have not yet appeared on the FIDE rating list.

The handbook says 10 games, was this changed to 20 ?
My bad... It should be 10 games. I'll fix this in the next update.

Can you define the periods used for the rating, and accumulating games played, if different

These are games played after March 1, 2011 and appeared on FIDE or CFC rating lists. The table shows accumulated games.

[Fred McKim]

These are games played after March 1, 2011 and appeared on FIDE or CFC rating lists. The table shows accumulated games.

OK, but the 10 game requirement would not require games to appear on a rating list by Mar 1, 2012. Just as long as they are actually played by that date. For example if somebody played in a FIDE event that finished Feb 27, 2012 then those games should count toward the 10 game requirement, but likely won't count for rating purposes. Correct ?

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Players Title FIDE Canadian Average Games Eligibility Placement Why Not Eligible
Sambuev Bator GM 2517 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=4128290) 2753 2635 ≥20 Already Qualified N/A
Bluvshtein Mark GM 2589 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2603608) 2634 2612 0 No 1 Not enough games
Spraggett Kevin GM 2576 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600013) 2618 2597 ≥20 Yes 2
Gerzhoy Leonid IM 2498 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2806126) 2647 2573 ≥20 Yes 3
Lesiege Alexandre GM 2528 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600170) 2577 2553 0 No 4 Not enough games
Charbonneau Pascal GM 2517 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2602504) 2585 2551 0 No 5 Not enough games
Tyomkin Dimitri GM 2496 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2803089) 2570 2533 2 No 6 Not enough games
Hansen Eric IM 2425 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2606771) 2612 2519 ≥20 Yes 7
Noritsyn Nikolay IM 2419 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2604922) 2597 2508 ≥20 Yes 8
Roussel-Roozmon Thomas GM 2491 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2603659) 2500 2496 0 No 9 Not enough games
Porper Edward IM 2446 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2801604) 2533 2490 ≥20 Yes 10
Zugic Igor IM 2462 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2602288) 2516 2489 0 No 11 Not enough games
Samsonkin Artem IM 2395 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=13503111) 2561 2478 19 No 12 Not enough games
Teplitsky Yan IM 2448 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2601818) 2473 2461 0 No 13 Not enough games
Hebert Jean IM 2414 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600048) 2486 2450 0 No 14 Not enough games
Panjwani Raja IM 2413 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2604493) 2481 2447 9 No 15 Not enough games
Cheng Bindi FM 2380 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2682249) 2500 2440 7 No 16 Not enough games
Quan Zhe IM 2412 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=8601640) 2462 2437 0 No 17 Not enough games
Krnan Tomas IM 2390 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14905361) 2470 2430 0 No 18 Not enough games
The links on the FIDE rating will open FIDE chess profile.


OK, but the 10 game requirement would not require games to appear on a rating list by Mar 1, 2012. Just as long as they are actually played by that date.

Games should be rated not only played. The CFC case is quite clear - every Thursday results are processed and ratings are updated. FIDE case is more complicated.

[Fred McKim]

Players Title FIDE Canadian Average Games Eligibility Placement Why Not Eligible
Sambuev Bator GM 2517 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=4128290) 2753 2635 ≥20 Already Qualified N/A
Bluvshtein Mark GM 2589 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2603608) 2634 2612 0 No 1 Not enough games
Spraggett Kevin GM 2576 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600013) 2618 2597 ≥20 Yes 2
Gerzhoy Leonid IM 2498 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2806126) 2647 2573 ≥20 Yes 3
Lesiege Alexandre GM 2528 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600170) 2577 2553 0 No 4 Not enough games
Charbonneau Pascal GM 2517 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2602504) 2585 2551 0 No 5 Not enough games
Tyomkin Dimitri GM 2496 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2803089) 2570 2533 2 No 6 Not enough games
Hansen Eric IM 2425 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2606771) 2612 2519 ≥20 Yes 7
Noritsyn Nikolay IM 2419 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2604922) 2597 2508 ≥20 Yes 8
Roussel-Roozmon Thomas GM 2491 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2603659) 2500 2496 0 No 9 Not enough games
Porper Edward IM 2446 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2801604) 2533 2490 ≥20 Yes 10
Zugic Igor IM 2462 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2602288) 2516 2489 0 No 11 Not enough games
Samsonkin Artem IM 2395 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=13503111) 2561 2478 19 No 12 Not enough games
Teplitsky Yan IM 2448 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2601818) 2473 2461 0 No 13 Not enough games
Hebert Jean IM 2414 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2600048) 2486 2450 0 No 14 Not enough games
Panjwani Raja IM 2413 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2604493) 2481 2447 9 No 15 Not enough games
Cheng Bindi FM 2380 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2682249) 2500 2440 7 No 16 Not enough games
Quan Zhe IM 2412 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=8601640) 2462 2437 0 No 17 Not enough games
Krnan Tomas IM 2390 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14905361) 2470 2430 0 No 18 Not enough games
The links on the FIDE rating will open FIDE chess profile.



Games should be rated not only played. The CFC case is quite clear - every Thursday results are processed and ratings are updated. FIDE case is more complicated.


The handbook is pretty clear that the games only have to be played, it does not say they have to be rated.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

The handbook is pretty clear that the games only have to be played, it does not say they have to be rated.

It says:
Have played at least 10 regular CFC rated or FIDE rated games during the year prior to the start of the selection process

[Fred McKim]

It says:
Have played at least 10 regular CFC rated or FIDE rated games during the year prior to the start of the selection process

I still disagree with your interpretation, but I wouldn't think anyone will be leaving it til the last minute.

I'd like to hear Ilia's interpretation.

[Ilia Bluvshtein]

I still disagree with your interpretation, but I wouldn't think anyone will be leaving it til the last minute.

I'd like to hear Ilia's interpretation.

Section 1206aiii of the handbook cited by Egis talks about 2 things: a) games must be CFC of FIDE rated and b) must be played during the year prior to the start of the selection process (which begins 180 days before the start of the Olympiad).
The selection process will start on March 1, 2012. (180 days before the Olympiad that starts Aug 27, 2012). So I will include all rated (CFC or FIDE) games played between March 1, 2011 and March 1, 2012. If a game is played before March 1, 2012 and rated later, say, on April 1st, it will be included in the Final Selection Rating list.

[Fred McKim]

Olympiad starts August 27, 2012
Highest ratings starting March 1, 2010
Ratings for June 17, 2011

Players Title FIDE Canadian Average Games Eligibility Placement Why Not Eligible
Sambuev Bator GM 2517 2753 2635 ≥20 Already Qualified N/A
Bluvshtein Mark GM 2589 2634 2612 0 No 1 Not enough games
Spraggett Kevin GM 2576 2618 2597 ≥20 Yes 2
Gerzhoy Leonid IM 2498 2647 2573 ≥20 Yes 3
Lesiege Alexandre GM 2528 2577 2553 0 No 4 Not enough games
Charbonneau Pascal GM 2517 2585 2551 0 No 5 Not enough games
Tyomkin Dimitri GM 2496 2570 2533 2 No 6 Not enough games
Hansen Eric IM 2425 2612 2519 ≥20 Yes 7
Noritsyn Nikolay IM 2419 2597 2508 ≥20 Yes 8
Roussel-Roozmon Thomas GM 2491 2500 2496 0 No 9 Not enough games
Porper Edward IM 2446 2533 2490 ≥20 Yes 10
Zugic Igor IM 2462 2516 2489 0 No 11 Not enough games
Samsonkin Artem IM 2395 2561 2478 19 No 12 Not enough games
Teplitsky Yan IM 2448 2473 2461 0 No 13 Not enough games
Hebert Jean IM 2414 2486 2450 0 No 14 Not enough games
Panjwani Raja IM 2413 2481 2447 9 No 15 Not enough games
Cheng Bindi FM 2380 2500 2440 7 No 16 Not enough games
Quan Zhe IM 2412 2462 2437 0 No 17 Not enough games
Krnan Tomas IM 2390 2470 2430 0 No 18 Not enough games

I assume this should say "Highest ratings starting Mar 1, 2011" (not 2010).

[Ken Craft]

KS has made his suggestions on his blog for what they are worth.

[Fred McKim]

KS has made his suggestions on his blog for what they are worth.

His picks might carry more credibility if they weren't accompanied by suggestions that

1) someone is buying their way onto the team and

2) we now throw away the rules, at the same time condemning us for past rule breaking (his interpretation) and likely future rule breaking.

[John Coleman]

... at the same time condoning us for past rule breaking (his interpretation) ...Condoning or condemning?

[Ken Craft]

Condemning, and rightfully so.