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    Vlad, I'm not sure why you keep bringing up partially fictitious past events which have absolutely nothing to do with you or your conduct as CFC President. So beyond this one paragraph, I'm not going to respond to any of it - unless you want to continue defaming me by blaming me for the loss of the CFC's charitable status, in which case I might go speak with a lawyer myself. I believe Kevin Spraggett's blog is the appropriate location for unfounded conspiracy theories.

    I'll put it very plainly to you: Why do you feel it's okay for you to ignore or make up rules as you go along, yet you are the first to threaten others with consequences if they don't follow your personal interpretation of what the rules are/should be?

    And as a follow-up: Why do you feel that this conduct is perfectly acceptable for a CFC President?
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    It’s true that the Board of Directors of the CFC has an important role to play. It must ensure that the organization is well managed, that laws are upheld and that high standards of transparency and integrity are applied, but its role goes well beyond this fiduciary responsibility. The directors actively contribute to the development of the organization’s long-term vision. This vision should appear in a strategic plan. The directors are involved not only in preparing, developing and implementing the planning process, but also in monitoring its implementation. From the perspective of democratic governance, the members’ participation in defining the organization’s orientations is crucial. As such, the Board of Directors should, where necessary, establish consultation practices that encourage such participation.

    In that regard, the FQE is very pleased with the recent meetings between both CFC and FQE Presidents. Other CFC Directors should take notice of the importance of those consultations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Bérubé View Post
    It’s true that the Board of Directors of the CFC has an important role to play. It must ensure that the organization is well managed, that laws are upheld and that high standards of transparency and integrity are applied, but its role goes well beyond this fiduciary responsibility. The directors actively contribute to the development of the organization’s long-term vision. This vision should appear in a strategic plan. The directors are involved not only in preparing, developing and implementing the planning process, but also in monitoring its implementation. From the perspective of democratic governance, the members’ participation in defining the organization’s orientations is crucial. As such, the Board of Directors should, where necessary, establish consultation practices that encourage such participation.

    In that regard, the FQE is very pleased with the recent meetings between both CFC and FQE Presidents. Other CFC Directors should take notice of the importance of those consultations.
    Thank you for redirecting this forum to its real goals. There is so many important items to deal with. I welcome the positive advancement of Chess through these consultations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia Gamliel View Post
    Thank you for redirecting this forum to its real goals. There is so many important items to deal with. I welcome the positive advancement of Chess through these consultations.
    In a thread made specifically to discuss this motion, you welcome redirecting this discussion to another topic - one that already has its own thread? Meanwhile, in the thread dedicated to that discussion, Vlad is bringing up the topic of THIS thread.
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    Originally Posted by Patricia Gamliel
    Thank you for redirecting this forum to its real goals. There is so many important items to deal with. I welcome the positive advancement of Chess through these consultations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Clark View Post
    In a thread made specifically to discuss this motion, you welcome redirecting this discussion to another topic - one that already has its own thread? Meanwhile, in the thread dedicated to that discussion, Vlad is bringing up the topic of THIS thread.
    My goodness Jeremy, one of the best posts EVER --- now I gotta clean up the coffee I laugh-sprayed all over my desk LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Clark View Post
    In a thread made specifically to discuss this motion, you welcome redirecting this discussion to another topic - one that already has its own thread? Meanwhile, in the thread dedicated to that discussion, Vlad is bringing up the topic of THIS thread.

    This thread is for the topic of whether it is a good idea to remove me. Why do you want to remove me?

    I understand that you are friendly with Hal Bond and I would very much caution you that you should refrain from making defamatory statements based only on what you have heard from him. I have very carefully gone through all of the correspondence that was exchanged around the time of the FIDE election and also the emails that I sent which show my understanding of the situation. I have discussed and shared some of these with FIDE president Arkady Dvorkovich. People are making allegations that are not based on evidence but only inferences and anonymous sources who, in some cases, are lying.

    I would suggest that everyone give at least as much attention to some of the other threads particularly the FQE letter which could be very significant for the future progress of chess in Canada. The Sport Tourism Canada thread is very significant to our future prospects post-pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    This thread is for the topic of whether it is a good idea to remove me. Why do you want to remove me?

    I understand that you are friendly with Hal Bond and I would very much caution you that you should refrain from making defamatory statements based only on what you have heard from him. I have very carefully gone through all of the correspondence that was exchanged around the time of the FIDE election and also the emails that I sent which show my understanding of the situation. I have discussed and shared some of these with FIDE president Arkady Dvorkovich. People are making allegations that are not based on evidence but only inferences and anonymous sources who, in some cases, are lying.

    I would suggest that everyone give at least as much attention to some of the other threads particularly the FQE letter which could be very significant for the future progress of chess in Canada. The Sport Tourism Canada thread is very significant to our future prospects post-pandemic.
    I didn't diminish the importance of the discussions with FQE. I merely pointed out that Patricia Gamliel 'welcomed' redirecting the discussion of the topic of this thread to another, while that other topic has its own thread. And in the thread regarding FQE consultations, you referenced the campaign to remove you as president, as though the two cannot happen at the same time.

    Along with Nikolay and Victor, I reference your behaviour in the recent special meeting as adequate grounds for your removal. Your behaviour here has not distinguished you any further. You bring up irrelevancies from the past of others in some misguided attempt to defend yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Clark View Post
    I didn't diminish the importance of the discussions with FQE. I merely pointed out that Patricia Gamliel 'welcomed' redirecting the discussion of the topic of this thread to another, while that other topic has its own thread. And in the thread regarding FQE consultations, you referenced the campaign to remove you as president, as though the two cannot happen at the same time.

    Along with Nikolay and Victor, I reference your behaviour in the recent special meeting as adequate grounds for your removal. Your behaviour here has not distinguished you any further. You bring up irrelevancies from the past of others in some misguided attempt to defend yourself.
    I think you have to be a bit more specific than that. Currently Mr. Itkine and Mr. Noritsyn are throwing a lot of irrelevancies against the wall and hoping that some of them will stick. In the case of Mr. Itkine he makes mistaken assumptions about my duties as CFC president. He does not understand fiduciary duty which requires me to do the exact opposite of what he is saying I am required to do. The fiduciary duty is not to the members of the board. The fiduciary duty is to the non-profit corporation, the CFC. I used to teach introductory finance and these concepts at university for a number of years. I understand fiduciary duty. I don't want to get too far into the weeds here but I am probably the only one who kept this fiduciary duty in mind throughout these situations. That fiduciary duty left me no other options.

    Mr. Noritsyn thinks that just because someone asks me to post defamatory material about the FIDE president and I refuse that is grounds for removal. I have great respect for Mr. Bareev but I could not as CFC president post that with what it said about the FIDE president without burning all bridges which were only recently available to us because we reached out to FIDE after Mr. Bond's resignation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    I think you have to be a bit more specific than that. ... In the case of Mr. Itkine he makes mistaken assumptions about my duties as CFC president. He does not understand fiduciary duty which requires me to do the exact opposite of what he is saying I am required to do. The fiduciary duty is not to the members of the board. The fiduciary duty is to the non-profit corporation the CFC. I used to teach introductory finance and these concepts at university for a number of years. I understand fiduciary duty. I don't want to get too far into the weeds here but I am probably the only one who kept this fiduciary duty in mind throughout these situations. That fiduciary duty left me no other options.
    The fiduciary duty issue was already dropped in the previous thread. The accusation in breaching CFC bylaws and NFP Act stays. We'll be more specific after receiving Director(s)' answers to my questions asked in the previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Itkin View Post
    The fiduciary duty issue was already dropped in the previous thread. The accusation in breaching CFC bylaws and NFP Act stays. We'll be more specific after receiving Director(s)' answers to my questions asked in the previous post.
    You don't investigate after you have launched a removal action. You cannot remove me for doing things which are within my authority whether current or recent past practice. The meeting and motions followed the same practices that we followed for the past seven and a half years.

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