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    Default Proxy rules

    As I understand it, nobody can hold more than 10% of the votes.

    But as an example, what if:

    Governors in attendance = 15
    Proxies = 12
    Total votes = 27.

    What is 10%? 10% of 27 = 2.7 Do we round up to 3 or not.

    Assuming for the moment we don't round up, so use 2.

    As a governor, do I count my own vote as 1 of the 2.
    So, I only get 1 proxy?
    As a non governor, can I vote 2 proxies?


    I think we should answer the questions before July 12th!!!

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    Hi Bob G:

    I just sent your post to Maurice Smith, who dealt with these exact questions last year when he chaired the AGM. I can't remember what he ruled though. It may be in the 2009 AGM minutes ( I haven't looked ).

    I asked if Maurice would post a reply so all will know.

    Bob A

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    Default Answer to Bob

    You can't hold proxies totalling more than 10% of the total vote. If the total vote is 28 you can hold two proxies (plus your own, if you're a governor)...

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    Hi Fred:

    I have now looked at the Edmonton 2009 AGM minutes. I don't know if Maurice's ruling last year agrees with you ( Last year I thought it was what you said, but when Maurice ruled, I deferred to his experience, and didn't question his ruling - as I recollect, I started with 2 proxies last year ( von Keitz and Craft ), and had to give one of them to someone else ):

    Governors Present - 8
    Proxies Filed - 16
    Proxies allowed to be held by governors - 1 ( + their own vote; I believe Maurice interpreted it as any governor having a maximum of 2 votes, since 10% of 25 votes = 2.5 votes, and it must be rounded down to 2 )
    Proxies allowed to Non-Governors - 1
    Proxies held by Secretary - 5 ( because no one else at the meeting could hold any more proxies ).

    I think Maurice will have to clear all this up, and confirm whether I'm interpreting the minutes correctly.

    Here are the Minutes:

    1. Registration of Proxies

    Governors holding Proxies
    David Steer- Micah Hughey
    Michael Barron-Ilia Bluvshtein
    Phil Haley-Les Bunning
    Eric Van Dusen-Halldor Palsson
    Maurice Smith-Lynn Stringer
    Bob Armstrong-Michael Von Keitz
    Hal Bond-Patrick McDonald
    Ken Einarsson-Lyle Craver

    Members holding one proxy

    Francois Nadeau-Ellen Nadeau
    Bill Doubleday-Herb Langer
    Hugh Brodie-Richard Keep

    Gerry Litchfield acting as secretary of proxies only voting when explicitly instructed:

    Nava Starr
    Stijn De Kerpel
    Gary Gladstone
    Chris Mallon
    Ken Craft
    Egidijus Zeromskis

    Total Votes are 25.

    Here is the Proxy section from the CFC Handbook:

    RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CHESS FEDERATION OF CANADA

    ARTICLE ONE




    PROXIES

    21. Any Governor who is unable to be personally present at a meeting of the Assembly may appoint any person to act as his proxy.

    Proxies made out to "The Secretary" will be distributed to CFC Members, present at the meeting, who do not have a vote. Preference will be given to members of the same province as the proxy giver. Non-Governors may not receive more than one proxy by this method. Remaining proxies of this type will not be used.

    No person shall act as proxy for more than 10% of all possible votes. Any Governor receiving more than the maximum allowed must distribute the excess, first to any alternate designees by the proxy giver and then at his own discretion.



    Bob
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    Default Proxies

    Section 2.22 - I think the 10% rule was misinterpreted by the chair, and this is why the Secretary ended up holding so many proxies.

    If Maurice is acting as chair this year, I think this needs to be cleared up ahead of time.

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    Default Who is attending the AGM

    There are two ways to interpret thr proxy rule. First, the intent was to not allow a person to be able to vote more than 10 percent of the total votes.
    I think that is something that most people would think as reasonable. So if there is a total of 27 votes and a person has two proxies plus his own vote, he has three votes which is more than 10 percent.

    However, if you take the ruling literally, it states: "No person shall ACT AS PROXY for more than 10 percent of all possible votes. So that means if there are 27 votes and someone has two proxies, the person is not ACTING AS PROXY for more than 10 percent of the total votes. So under that ruling the person is allowed two proxies.

    I get the feeling that most Governors would prefer this rule since it allows more proxies to be used. So therefore between 20 and 29 you may have two proxies, between 30 and 39 three proxies and so on. I don't think there will be many {if any} complaints doing it this way. So unless there is a strong wave of protest, that is what we shall do. Thanks for bringing it up, it is always good to know the rules beforehand.

    Maurice Smith

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    Hi Maurice:

    Very clearly set out - and I think the vast majority of governors will agree with the interpretation of the Handbook you are intending to follow this year.

    So governors attending now know what to expect when the total governors present, and proxies, are registered and totalled at the start of the meeting. As the number of proxies a governor agrees to hold goes up, so does the risk he may have to hand some of them off.

    Thanks for clarifying in advance.

    Bob

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    I will be there unless I have a scheduling conflict. I will post a message as soon as I am sure.

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    I will be there, and I am willing to hold proxies if approached.

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    Thumbs up AGM - when and where

    CHESS FEDERATION OF CANADA
    ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
    Westin Harbour Castle Hotel, Queen's Quay, Toronto
    Room - Dockside 8 - Basement
    Monday July 12th & Tuesday July 13th
    10:00am - 4:00pm

    If you're going to be at the Canadian Open, why not drop in on the annual general meeting. I see the notice is prominently displayed on CFC website.

    This is the one time during the year that governors from across the country get together, face to face, to deal with the challenges of promoting chess in Canada. This meeting is open to all CFC members. You do not need to be a governor. If you have questions, comments, suggestions, or just a complaint. We want to hear from you. Who knows, maybe you'll even volunteer to help.

    I will be there, and hopefully I will meet a few governors for the first time. Geography is a challenge. For those governors unable to attend, please make use of your proxy vote. Assign your proxy to someone you trust, and remember to give whatever instructions you wish.

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