View Poll Results: Motion 2010-05 Instituting a new " Governor Activity Rule " Should be Adopted.

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Thread: Ag. Item # 10A - Voting on Motion 2010-05 - Governor Activity Rule

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    Default Ag. Item # 10A - Voting on Motion 2010-05 - Governor Activity Rule

    This thread/poll is for voting only on Motion 2010-05 - Governor Activity Rule.

    Here is the motion:

    Motion 2010-05 – Governor Activity Rule
    Moved: Bob Armstrong; Seconded: Jason Lohner

    There shall be added to CFC By-law # 2, a new section 23 as follows:

    23. Governor Inactivity Rule

    Any governor, no matter whether provincial representative governor, or governor at large, including the Executive, appointees, etc., who does not vote, move/second a motion, or make a comment ( on a motion or generally ), in two consecutive Governors’ Letters, shall be removed from office, and their position shall no longer be part of a quorum until their replacement, if any. Should it happen that in a GL there are no motions for either discussion or vote, then that GL shall not be counted for the purposes of this section. Once removed, the Governor and his provincial body/appointing body shall be notified. A request that a by-election be held to fill the vacancy shall also be made to the provincial/territorial organization or that the appointing body appoint a replacement, for the balance of the removed governor’s term. "

    To review the debate on this motion before voting, see " Ag. Item # 10 - Discussion on Motion 2010-05 - Governor Activity Rule " below.

    Since we are voting " on-line " , you need not send an e-mail vote to the CFC Secretary.

    Bob
    Last edited by Bob Armstrong; 04-11-2010 at 10:40 PM.

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    Accidentally posted to wrong thread (deleted and moved).
    Last edited by Garvin Nunes; 04-12-2010 at 10:30 AM.

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    Default This motion is too strict...

    ... and does not cover who will keep track of governors participation.

    Jason was very vocal about the wide spread of computers and access to internet; obviously he has never been overseas on a different continent for any length of time.

    If this is going to be revisited to a more decent time frame before removal, tracking of participation and other aspects I missed, I will reconsider.

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    Default Agenda Item Summary - Vote Result

    Motion 2010-05 – Governor Activity Rule – Vote Results

    This motion, amending Bylaw 2, is considered a “ constitutional “ amendment: Because there is no legislation yet authorizing on-line voting, as we have done in this meeting, the vote must be treated as if it were a “ mail vote “ under section 3 ( b ) of Bylaw 3 ( it is not an “ Annual Meeting “ vote ):

    BY-LAW NUMBER THREE OF THE CHESS FEDERATION OF CANADA
    ANNUAL MEETING AND AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION

    3. Any amendment or revision of these By-Laws;……………may be made,

    (a) at any Annual Meeting of the Assembly, providing that a notice of intention to submit such matter to a vote has been received by the Secretary at least 30 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting and has been transmitted by the Secretary to each Governor at least 14 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting and that any resolution pertaining to such matter shall be approved by at least a two-thirds majority of the votes of those present and entitled to vote, including proxy votes.

    (b) at any time through a mail vote of Assembly, providing that the exact wording of such proposed amendments or revision, or of the resolution to be passed by the Board through mail vote is submitted to each Governor at least fourteen days before the expiry of the time limit specified by the President for the receipt of the votes by the Secretary, and that at least one-half of the number of votes eligible to be cast has been received by the Secretary, and there is a majority of at least two-thirds of the votes cast in favour of the proposed amendment or revision or resolution.

    Abstentions shall not be included in determining whether a two-thirds majority has been attained in (a) or (b) above provided only that the number of votes cast in favour must exceed the sum of the number of votes cast against and of the number of abstentions cast.

    Being under ( b ), the motion has to meet the 50% quorum rule. As well, it must have the enhanced majority of 2/3 of the votes cast.

    Results of voting:

    Eligible Voters - 60
    Votes Cast -29
    Yes – 13
    No – 15
    Abstain – 1

    The motion is defeated – it has failed to meet the quorum requirement. There are 60 governors, and so 30 votes had to be cast. Only 29 votes were cast.

    It must be remembered, however, that the votes taken in this meeting are only “ straw votes “, since there is as of yet, no Handbook section that allows this kind of “ on-line “ voting by Governors.
    So the motion will still now go on to the next GL or AGM voting as already scheduled, to be voted on again.

    Is this summary generally satisfactory?

    Bob

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    Bob, if it was an official vote at this meeting, quorum merely requires a certain percentage of the votes to be "present" regardless if they actually vote or not.

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    Hi Chris:

    I defer to those with more experience with Roberts Rules of Order.

    In that case:

    Eligible Voters - 60
    Voters Present - 36
    Votes Cast - 29
    Yes -13
    No - 15
    Abstain - 1

    Motion is defeated - it does meet the quorum requirement - 30 voters needed to be present, and there were 36.
    However it fails to meet the enhanced majority requirement of 2/3 of votes cast.

    Is this corrected presentation of the vote results now satisfactory?

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valer Eugen Demian
    ... and does not cover who will keep track of governors participation.

    Jason was very vocal about the wide spread of computers and access to internet; obviously he has never been overseas on a different continent for any length of time.

    If this is going to be revisited to a more decent time frame before removal, tracking of participation and other aspects I missed, I will reconsider.

    I have lived oversees and traveled half way around the world... your premise is false.

    If someone is planning on living oversees for a prolonged period of time why would they run as a Governor?

    If someone has a reason why they suddenly have to go oversees during these times, I can see an amendment where the governor informs people (perhaps on this forum) that they are going to be away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Lohner
    I have lived oversees and traveled half way around the world... your premise is false.

    If someone is planning on living oversees for a prolonged period of time why would they run as a Governor?

    If someone has a reason why they suddenly have to go oversees during these times, I can see an amendment where the governor informs people (perhaps on this forum) that they are going to be away.
    Then add the amendment first!...

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