Ag. Item # 15 – Discussion Only of Motion 2010-11 – Role of the FIDE Representative (

[Christopher Mallon]

I agree with Les. The Executive is big enough.

[Hal Bond]

Sorry to disappoint you Les - but I agree with you!

We don't need to expand the Executive. Various Co-ordinators are consulted when their input is sought. In my experience their input does have weight.

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Hal:

Who ever hears " boo " from the current non-Executive officers - Masters' Representative, Women's Coordinator, and Rating Auditor??

No weight because not on the Executive !

Bob

[John Coleman]

I believe that at least two of the three you mention don't contribute because they are not interested in chess governance. Probably a sign of wisdom.

I fail to understand why people volunteer for a position, and then don't do anything at all. The first requirement for a volunteer is willingness.

[Christopher Mallon]

We can go years without the rating auditor doing anything at all (apparently).

The Master's Rep actually was on the executive one year at least (2006-2007) to maintain an odd number, with no Past President.

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Les:

Bylaw # 2

18. OFFICERS

The Officers of the Federation shall be

the members of the Board of Directors;

the Masters Representative;

the Women’s Co-ordinator;

the Junior Co-ordinator ( note - by motion, the position of the rating auditor and junior coordinator ( properly called now the Youth Coordinator ) were switched - so the Youth Coordinator is now on the Board of Directors/Executive, and the rating auditor is now a non-Executive officer );

the Executive Director; and

any other general Officer who may be elected at the annual meeting of the Assembly or appointed as an Officer from the Assembly by the Board of Directors between the annual meeting at the Assembly. Upon the vacation from office of any officer between the annual meeting the President may fill the vacancy for the rest of the term by way of appointment.

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20. OFFICERS ARE GOVERNORS

With the exception of the Executive Directors those Officers who are not members of the incoming Assembly of Governors shall:

enjoy the same rights as the members of the incoming Assembly during their term of office and they shall be regarded as Governors at large not representing any particular province,

unless otherwise provided hold office until the next annual meeting of the Assembly or until their successors are elected or appointed in their stead.

Clearly from this you are correct. The non-Executive officers of Masters; Representative, Women's Coordinator and Rating Auditor are indeed governors, contrary to what I was advised when I became a governor. I will now add them to my list of governors and give them in future notices of this meeting.

Although section 20 allows for other non-executive officer positions to be created, GM Mark Bluvshtein, Michael von Keitz and myself are still of the view that the Tournament Coordinator, and Public Relations Coordinator, should become Executive officers, expanding the Board of Directors/Executive to 9 persons from 7 ( 6 currently since the Past President position is vacant ).

Bob

[Hal Bond]

Bob - the Co-ordinators are heard from when their input is saught. The Master's Rep and Women's Co-odrinator are typically involved when the National Championships are pending, and the Olympic Co-ordinator gets busy at the appropriate times. Frankly I have less of an issue with their executive/non executive status than I have with your vision of Governors running the Federation.

Gordon Ritchie has articulated this position already. We need to simplify and streamline, not complicate and bloat. In the context of Governors, the higher the expectations, the bigger the diasppointment. How many times have you lamented the lack of Governor involvement? There simply isn't the interest at the Governor level to support increased responsibility. Who then would wish to serve on the Exec, where the will be judged for a performance that is hardly their own?

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Hal:

You ( Past President ), Chris Mallon ( Past President ), Les Bunning ( Past President ) and Governor Gordon Ritchie have all indicated you do not support the Tournament Coordinator and Public Relations Coordinator going onto the Executive. I consider this significant opposition - there has not been a lot of input into this issue by other governors, so I do not know if we may still have a majority of support for our position that to be influential, these positions must be actually on the Executive. I am aware of your concern that the Executive not be expanded, because CFC already has difficulty finding Candidates for the existing 6 Executive positions.

So, I will send your post and my reply post here, to GM Mark Bluvshtein, and Michael von Keitz, to ask them to review our position, and advise me if they still want to proceed with our 2 motions as is.

Thanks for your clear input on this - this is what governor dialogue is supposed to do - help each of us to evolve our positions on issues.

Bob

[Patrick McDonald]

I will make this note: The year(s) that we had the Masters Rep as a part of the executive, he was most definitely an ACTIVE PARTICIPATING and valued member of the executive.

I know that I appreciated his input that (those?) year(s).

[Bob Armstrong]

Please note that this is a thread on the FIDE Representative.

If you wish to continue the discussion on Tournament Coordinator or Public Relations Coordinator, there are now 2 " New Business " threads for this - Agenda Items 17B & 17C. Please make your posts there now. Thanks.

Bob