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    This thread is open for discussions on any other youth related topic. As always if there are enough postings on a particular subject we may move them into a thread of their own
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    The rules for CYCC Regional qualifiers are not clear, those regional qualifiers are no longer mentioned in the Handbook.

    I have guessed that anybody can organized a Regional qualifier and that all participants with a score superior to 50% can go to Regina. The financial considerations are unclear, are all participants to the qualifier required to be CFC or FQE members ? How much of each registration is to be contributed to the Youth Fund ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Dénommée View Post
    The rules for CYCC Regional qualifiers are not clear, those regional qualifiers are no longer mentioned in the Handbook.

    I have guessed that anybody can organized an Regional qualifier and that all participants with a score superior to 50% can go to Regina. The financial considerations are unclear, are all participants to the qualifier required to be CFC or FQE members ? How much of each registration is to be contributed to the Youth Fund ?
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    At this point, only CYCC, other Canadian Championships like the Canadian Junior, international play or tournaments where juniors play against adults require CFC memberships or equivalent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
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    At this point, only CYCC, other Canadian Championships like the Canadian Junior, international play or tournaments where juniors play against adults require CFC memberships or equivalent.
    I think some/all National events require full CFC/FQE membership, and most regular tournaments allow the equivalent (single tournament fee)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred McKim View Post
    I think some/all National events require full CFC/FQE membership, and most regular tournaments allow the equivalent (single tournament fee)
    Does this means that for a CYCC qualifier, the player must still pay the single tournament fee ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Dénommée View Post
    Does this means that for a CYCC qualifier, the player must still pay the single tournament fee ?
    I THINK the CYCC qualifiers are regular junior events, and no membership (or equivalent is required).

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    This is the kind of thing that DEFINITELY needs clarified - we simply cannot have organizers in doubt and risk their events not being rated as a result. This was the single reason I thought the waiver was a bad idea (e.g. that it was too vague)

    If that requires a motion - great. If it can be done as a clarification of existing policy - great.

    But for sure something that basic needs to be crystal clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle Craver View Post
    This is the kind of thing that DEFINITELY needs clarified - we simply cannot have organizers in doubt and risk their events not being rated as a result. This was the single reason I thought the waiver was a bad idea (e.g. that it was too vague)

    If that requires a motion - great. If it can be done as a clarification of existing policy - great.

    But for sure something that basic needs to be crystal clear.
    I second the motion, if a seconder is required.

    The risk is greater then having a tournament not rated, an kid qualification's could be jeopardized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Dénommée View Post
    I second the motion, if a seconder is required.

    The risk is greater then having a tournament not rated, an kid qualification's could be jeopardized.
    The regulations seem pretty clear to me. You have to pay $2 per player with a cap for large events. $0.50 of that is a rating fee and is HST taxable. $1.50 is a youth fund contribution and no tax. No memberships are required.

    Voting items require three weeks of notice so we could vote at the next meeting but we really need a coherent strategy for our youth events and fundraising to send teams to various tournaments.

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    The original CYCC format was that qualifiers were SUPPOSED to fund travel costs for the next stage.

    This was a critical element for organizers in BC / AB where our travel costs are the highest in the country barring the rare times they're held out our way. This is why I've always so opposed well-heeled parents buying their kids' ways to national events - it completely subverts the self-funding plan that in my view is fundamental to the CYCC concept. If a kid can bypass the qualifier they'll avoid the qualifier and I >don't< buy the argument that kids might not be able to play on a particular date - as a junior I couldn't play in all the events I was eligible for nor especially expected to. There was certainly no question of playing out of town unless someone arranged transport - my parents' participation in my junior career was that of chauffeur.

    But for sure you want the maximum possible turnout for your qualifiers - CYCC is the direct descendant of (and was modelled after on a national scale) Lynn Stringer's C-FAX radio events of the 60s and 70s where the events collectively involved 2000-3000 kids a year with no event being significantly bigger than 50-60. You need to bear in mind the population of Victoria to realize what an achievement that was in the day.

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