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    Default There you go again Sid Belzberg

    The CFC was part of this by accepting what is tantamount to an $80,000.00 bribe in the form of FIDE tournament sponsorship (not offered at the time to federations that supported Garry), as well, it appeared, to ensure the continued employment of the Canadian FIDE representative as an arbitrator who was very much involved in the endorsement process even though he declared publicly at the prior election involving Karpov that he was conflicted out according to Kevin Spraggett's blog.


    Being unable to post to Chesstalk from home for some reason related to either Cogeco or Lunar Pages has certainly encouraged the representatives of the lunatic fringe to take advantage. FIDE offered the CFC a chance to hold some FIDE norm tournaments by offering us some inducements to hold these tournaments. Larry Bevand, the owner of the board where the libelous accusations are being oft repeated was not able to bring one of these tournaments into existence in a timely manner despite initially being awarded one of the tournaments so obviously the characterization of this award as some kind of a bribe is a bit bizarre. My understanding is that these tournaments tend to lose money and the beneficiaries tend to be a few grandmasters that play in them and a few norm seekers who might play in the hopes of obtaining the much coveted titles that norms allow. No one from the CFC personally benefits from these awards so to call them a bribe seems a tad bizarre.

    On the other hand, clearly the Kasparov Leong deal which involved payments of $500,000 and giving Leong the establishment and control of a FIDE office in Leong's country which would control all FIDE commissions receives nary a mention by well known businessman and Kasparov apologist Sid Belzberg. You can read the text of that agreement in the second link below. If you read that agreement you will be able to see which campaign clearly was offering inducements to further their aims. Fortunately there was never much danger of the deal being fulfilled particularly when the details were leaked to the media pretty much laying bare the reality of any claim to being a moral reformer. Clearly the text of the agreement is that the Kasparov campaign was willing to adopt the very practices (which most rational people would criticize as corrupt) if it would further their own aims of seizing control of world chess.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/22/sports/kasparovs-moves-in-run-for-chess-office-raise-ethical-concerns.html?_r=0

    http://www.chessvibes.com/sites/defa..._Sep052013.pdf

    http://www.chessdom.com/the-new-york...rov-and-leong/
    Last edited by Vladimir Drkulec; 01-14-2016 at 12:05 PM.

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    Default There goes Vlad again distorting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post


    Being unable to post to Chesstalk from home for some reason related to either Cogeco or Lunar Pages has certainly encouraged the representatives of the lunatic fringe to take advantage. FIDE offered the CFC a chance to hold some FIDE norm tournaments by offering us some inducements to hold these tournaments. Larry Bevand, the owner of the board where the libelous accusations are being oft repeated was not able to bring one of these tournaments into existence in a timely manner despite initially being awarded one of the tournaments so obviously the characterization of this award as some kind of a bribe is a bit bizarre. My understanding is that these tournaments tend to lose money and the beneficiaries tend to be a few grandmasters that play in them and a few norm seekers who might play in the hopes of obtaining the much coveted titles that norms allow. No one from the CFC personally benefits from these awards so to call them a bribe seems a tad bizarre.

    On the other hand, clearly the Kasparov Leong deal which involved payments of $500,000 and giving Leong the establishment and control of a FIDE office in Leong's country which would control all FIDE commissions receives nary a mention by well known businessman and Kasparov apologist Sid Belzberg. You can read the text of that agreement in the second link below. If you read that agreement you will be able to see which campaign clearly was offering inducements to further their aims. Fortunately there was never much danger of the deal being fulfilled particularly when the details were leaked to the media pretty much laying bare the reality of any claim to being a moral reformer. Clearly the text of the agreement is that the Kasparov campaign was willing to adopt the very practices (which most rational people would criticize as corrupt) if it would further their own aims of seizing control of world chess.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/22/sports/kasparovs-moves-in-run-for-chess-office-raise-ethical-concerns.html?_r=0

    http://www.chessvibes.com/sites/defa..._Sep052013.pdf

    http://www.chessdom.com/the-new-york...rov-and-leong/
    Some of the CFC's own voting members protested the action of the CFC to endorse Kirsan. Kirsan is not entitled to use FIDE resources to dispense benefits only to the federations that endorsed him. At least one Western Canadian tournament organizer rejected using this sponsorship on the basis that it is "dirty money". Of course you fail to mention that at least one member of your executive receives personal benefits from FIDE in the form of arbitration jobs and tournament organizing positions.

    Editor: Sid fails to mention that arbiters are not hired by FIDE but by individual tournament organizers. Post has been edited to remove libelous statements.

    By the way Kasparov's deal did not involve embezzling FIDE resources used to curry favor with only the chess federations that endorsed him. It was a fully disclosed deal financed by the Kasparov Chess Foundation.

    Editor: Kasparov's deal did give Leong control over all FIDE commissions and establish a FIDE office in Leong's host country paid for by FIDE which would have dwarfed the $500,000 price tag.

    Just for the record here is the complete post from chesstalk with all the other details that your Vlad chose not to include. Chess parents take note about who the CFC's president's loyalties are with.
    Last edited by Vladimir Drkulec; 01-19-2016 at 12:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Belzberg View Post
    Some of the CFC's own voting members protested the action of the CFC to endorse Kirsan. Kirsan is not entitled to use FIDE resources to dispense benefits only to the federations that endorsed him. At least one Western Canadian tournament organizer rejected using this sponsorship on the basis that it is "dirty money". Of course you fail to mention that at least one member of your executive receives personal benefits from FIDE in the form of arbitration jobs and tournament organizing positions.

    Editor: Sid fails to mention that arbiters are not hired by FIDE but by individual tournament organizers. Post has been edited to remove libelous statements.

    By the way Kasparov's deal did not involve embezzling FIDE resources used to curry favor with only the chess federations that endorsed him. It was a fully disclosed deal financed by the Kasparov Chess Foundation.

    Editor: Kasparov's deal did give Leong control over all FIDE commissions and establish a FIDE office in Leong's host country paid for by FIDE which would have dwarfed the $500,000 price tag.

    Just for the record here is the complete post from chesstalk with all the other details that your Vlad chose not to include. Chess parents take note about who the CFC's president's loyalties are with.
    The CFC does not allow libelous statements to be posted. Your post has been edited to remove such statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    The CFC does not allow libelous statements to be posted. Your post has been edited to remove such statements.
    Here is a post from voting member Felix Dumont on chesstalk July 8th 2014 responding to Vlad's request to edit his post.
    Editor: Libelous statements removed.
    Last edited by Vladimir Drkulec; 01-19-2016 at 03:09 PM.

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