5.1 Appointment of Class A Voting Members (Garland Best)

[Lyle Craver]

I would oppose this since as long as we have Life Governors/VM a move to a per 100 rather than per 50 would increase their influence.

And make no mistake about it - I am on the side that feels strongly that Life Governors/VM do provide a valuable service to the Federation to the extent they take part in Assembly affairs.

[Bob Armstrong]

I would oppose this since as long as we have Life Governors/VM a move to a per 100 rather than per 50 would increase their influence.

And make no mistake about it - I am on the side that feels strongly that Life Governors/VM do provide a valuable service to the Federation to the extent they take part in Assembly affairs.

Hi Lyle:

In theory, you are right.

In practice their real on the ground influence is nil....only Mr Palsson, of the 9 Life Governors, to my knowledge, has signed into either the Outgoing or Incoming AGM's. Doesn't seem to matter the ratio of provincial reps vs Life Governors.

And what ever happened to Les Bunning's proposal to impose an activity rule on Life Governors (when my motion to eliminate them totally failed)? I think Les had talked of him bringing in a motion: No attendance at 2 consecutive meetings, they are removed as Voting Members. Never happened.

Bob A

[Vladimir Drkulec]

Hi Lyle:

In theory, you are right.

In practice their real on the ground influence is nil....only Mr Palsson, of the 9 Life Governors, to my knowledge, has signed into either the Outgoing or Incoming AGM's. Doesn't seem to matter the ratio of provincial reps vs Life Governors.

And what ever happened to Les Bunning's proposal to impose an activity rule on Life Governors (when my motion to eliminate them totally failed)? I think Les had talked of him bringing in a motion: No attendance at 2 consecutive meetings, they are removed as Voting Members. Never happened.

Bob A

Peter Stockhausen has also been on. Les Bunning usually makes contributions often hidden in the background.

[Garland Best]

I Like Les. He is a capable person, and can give good legal advice. He did try to come up with a new NFP act for the CFC together with Gordon Ritchie. And if Haldor stopped being tournament director at the RA chess club I don't know what I would do. And I enjoy sharing a drink with him and discussing matters at the bar afterwards.

However I don't equate that to giving them permanent voting rights. We didn't give Jean Chretien a permanent seat in the house of commons even though he was elected Prime Minister 3 times straight.

I put this motion through as stated because I viewed it as the most likely to pass, and I felt that we had to start somewhere. However I do intend to move to ammend it eventually. I just don't intend to fight that battle today.

[Lyle Craver]

It now being 1800 ET on day 4, voting on this motion is now underway.

I note en passant that there was no seconder for the Zeromskis amendment, thus we are voting on the original unamended motion.

If he wishes to re-introduce this amendment at the October meeting that's his right.

My personal view is as stated above and I agree it would be a most substantive change - not minor at all.

[Vladimir Drkulec]

The special officers are still missing as being voting members in the motion being voted upon...

[Fred McKim]

The special officers are still missing as being voting members in the motion being voted upon...

I would consider this to be an oversight. The Master's Rep, is a special case as they are not elected at the AGM.

[Lyle Craver]

OK then clearly we still have work to do on this file. I think I knew that but obviously we're not as far along as I had thought / hoped.

[Christopher Mallon]

Just a question because I know we ran into this when we were a Charity... but if someone under 18 years old wins or finishes 2nd in the Closed can they assume that Class A status under the NFP act?
The previous answer was "no" but I'm curious if that has changed or not, since it's a new act and also no longer a Charity.

[Fred McKim]

Just a question because I know we ran into this when we were a Charity... but if someone under 18 years old wins or finishes 2nd in the Closed can they assume that Class A status under the NFP act?
The previous answer was "no" but I'm curious if that has changed or not, since it's a new act and also no longer a Charity.

If we retain the 18 & older regulation for a Class A member, then I think we would simply pass over any players U18 from the Closed.