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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    I discussed this matter with Michael von Keitz late last night on Skype and this situation should be resolved with the next update of member expiry dates. This update should happen later this week.
    Thank you, Vlad and Michael!
    I just checked the CFC website - the problem is solved!
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    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    Apparently these dates conflict with Ontario high school exams.
    Yes, these dates conflict with Ontario high school exams.
    But this fact can't prevent us from sending Canadian delegation - not every potential player is Ontario high school student.

    Could we try Bob's suggestion for transparent official players selection for this event?
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    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle Craver View Post
    It can't prevent FIDE doing awkward things like the Pan Am dates etc...
    Lyle, let's be clear:
    In this case not FIDE, but CFC is doing awkward things:
    year after year select for the CYCC dates that conflict with PanAm.

    FIDE made it clear:
    North American Youth Chess Championships will be in May-June,
    Pan American Youth Chess Championships will be in July,
    World Youth Chess Championships will be in August-September.

    The majority of National Chess Federations organize their National Youth Chess Championships in March-April.
    Why the CFC can't do the same?
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    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Barron View Post
    Yes, these dates conflict with Ontario high school exams.
    But this fact can't prevent us from sending Canadian delegation - not every potential player is Ontario high school student.

    Could we try Bob's suggestion for transparent official players selection for this event?
    The rules for selection are already in place as outlined in the regulations around CYCC. Unfortunately they are a bit messy because of people graduating into the next age group competing for spots with those still in the same age group. We will try to incorporate Bob's and your suggestions when the selections are determined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Barron View Post
    Lyle, let's be clear:
    In this case not FIDE, but CFC is doing awkward things:
    year after year select for the CYCC dates that conflict with PanAm.

    FIDE made it clear:
    North American Youth Chess Championships will be in May-June,
    Do you want us to reprimand the Ontario educational system for setting high school exams on a date which conflicts with FIDE's tournament?

    Pan American Youth Chess Championships will be in July,
    World Youth Chess Championships will be in August-September.

    The majority of National Chess Federations organize their National Youth Chess Championships in March-April.
    Why the CFC can't do the same?
    This looks like a job for the youth committee. They can make a recommendation on what makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    This looks like a job for the youth committee. They can make a recommendation on what makes sense.
    And I have to repeat the same question again:
    Who are "they"?
    Who are on the youth committee?
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    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    The rules for selection are already in place as outlined in the regulations around CYCC. Unfortunately they are a bit messy because of people graduating into the next age group competing for spots with those still in the same age group. We will try to incorporate Bob's and your suggestions when the selections are determined.
    Vlad, this is the main issue:
    transparency of selection process.

    It's too late to incorporate any suggestions when the selections are determined - in case of WYCC it happened after registration deadline.
    Bob suggested to post information about selection process before the selections are determined - this is the main point.

    Could it be done?
    Thanks,
    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Barron View Post
    Vlad, this is the main issue:
    transparency of selection process.

    It's too late to incorporate any suggestions when the selections are determined - in case of WYCC it happened after registration deadline.
    Bob suggested to post information about selection process before the selections are determined - this is the main point.

    Could it be done?
    Yes it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    Yes it can be done.
    Thank you, Vlad!

    Who will be responsible for updating information about 2014 NAYCC selection process on the CFC website?
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    Michael Barron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Drkulec View Post
    The rules for selection are already in place as outlined in the regulations around CYCC. Unfortunately they are a bit messy because of people graduating into the next age group competing for spots with those still in the same age group. We will try to incorporate Bob's and your suggestions when the selections are determined.
    I've felt for more than 20 years that allowing players to play in a qualification tournament for which they are ineligible to play should they win is grossly unfair to those who play hoping to qualify.

    If my chances to play at a higher level are frustrated by a loss to someone who goes forward instead of me, fair is fair - but to be eliminated by someone who isn't able to take the place I'm fighting for has always seemed wrong to me.

    To be blunt - I feel strongly that being eligible to play in the next higher level tournament should the player win ought to be a basic qualification to play in a qualifying event.

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