CYCC Regional Qualifiers

[Michael von Keitz]

It's getting to be that time of year again. If you're considering running a regional YCC of your own, visit this link for more information.

[John Coleman]

in the link http://chess.ca/cycc_regional_qualifiers it says
"Age is determined as of Dec 31st 2012, for the 2012 series."

But the CYCC regulations http://www.bcjuniorchess.com/cycc-2012/regulations/ say
"Age as of January 1st, 2012 is used to determine which section a player is eligible to enter."

Some clarification is needed.

[Michael von Keitz]

Corrected. Thank you, John, for pointing out the error!

[Fred McKim]

in the link http://chess.ca/cycc_regional_qualifiers it says
"Age is determined as of Dec 31st 2012, for the 2012 series."

But the CYCC regulations http://www.bcjuniorchess.com/cycc-2012/regulations/ say
"Age as of January 1st, 2012 is used to determine which section a player is eligible to enter."

Some clarification is needed.

It probably should be age at Dec 31, 2011 (midnight) ............... It would be easier to remove dates and just use years.

[Bob Armstrong]

To be really picky about this, if the date is to be Dec. 31, the time is 11:59 PM.

Midnight is really 12:00 AM on Jan. 1, no?

Couldn't resist trying to muck it up a bit more!!

Bob A.

[Michael von Keitz]

To quote a related FIDE regulation (their Handbook needs updating...): "Entitled to participate are chess players [...] who shall not have reached the age of 10, 12, 14, 16 or 18 years, respectively, by January 1st of the year in which the tournament will commence." It should be January 1st.

[Paul Leblanc]

I recommend we add a reminder to the advertising regarding time controls to qualify the events for Regular/Standard ratings. Otherwise events will be rated as Active.

CFC Handbook Article 711. Rateable Tournaments. To be rated under the CFC "standard" rating system the time control must be at least 60 minutes per player for the game (or for 60 moves with increment).

[Fred McKim]

To quote a related FIDE regulation (their Handbook needs updating...): "Entitled to participate are chess players [...] who shall not have reached the age of 10, 12, 14, 16 or 18 years, respectively, by January 1st of the year in which the tournament will commence." It should be January 1st.

I think this is a bad translation into English from whatever the actual rule is. The use of a negative with the word by is ambiguous.

Surely those born on Jan 1 are to be treated the same as those born on Jan 2, anything else would just be silly.

I'm sure Hal could investigate this.

[Hal Bond]

For crying out loud guys!!!

Age on Jan 1 is the cut off. Everyone knows this. Have we nothing better to do?

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Hal:

This is what I have always understood.

For example, if a child was born at 12:01 AM on January 1, and turned 18 on Jan. 1 in the year of the WYCC, then they would be eligibleto play in the WYCC U 18 Open section, right? The reason would be that at 12:00 AM on Jan. 1, they were still only 17 years old.

And as I understand it, if the child was born at 12:00 AM on Jan. 1, they would be treated the same way - theoretically, at the " start " of that year, they were still 17 years old. Right?

Bob A