16. Motion to change age for junior membership Motion 2012-D

[Lyle Craver]

Moved / Seconded Fred McKim / Lyle Craver

[Editorial note: Governors should note that this is essentially a re-introduction of motion 2010-02 (Moved / Seconded Egidijus Zeromskis / Christopher Mallon)) with the sole exception of the removal of the clause dealing with Participating members since this type of membership was ended by a Governor vote shortly after the demise of En Passant magazine)

It is a constitutional motion since it amends sections of Bylaw One or Bylaw Two]

The Constitution change:
"JUNIOR MEMBERSHIP
9. Any person ordinarily resident in Canada who is under the age of 18, shall be granted a Junior membership or a Junior Participating Membership."

is replaced with:

"JUNIOR MEMBERSHIP

9. Any person ordinarily resident in Canada who has not reached the age of 20 by January 1st of the current year, shall be granted a Junior membership."

(The current text of this paragraph can be found at http://www.chess.ca/section_2.htm - please note that since this motion proposes to change paragraph 9 of the CFC Handbook this is a constitutional change and thus is subject to the rules for constitutional amendments rather tan simply an ordinary motion)

[Fred McKim]

This motion easily passed at the time, but failed to gain the quorum needed.

[Christopher Mallon]

Just curious... seeing the wording that way, it kinda looks like you could read it as "Everyone in Canada under 18 is granted a membership"

I'm not reading the whole handbook at the moment though, perhaps there is something higher up that would fix that?

I (sadly) had to go to the Web Archive to find our handbook, as the CFC site is down. Again. http://web.archive.org/web/201003250...ection_2.shtml

Having read through it, I believe it could be legally interpreted that way. I suggest that we add " in place of an Ordinary Membership" to the end.

I do still support this motion.

[Lyle Craver]

I don't like the motion's wording either for the same reasons but with the exception of deleting the clause about the discontinued Participating Membership this is word for word the wording of the original motion that you seconded Chris!

[Christopher Mallon]

I understand that Lyle. I'm not perfect! (Just close! hehehe) Can we agree that we probably SHOULD be fixing the wording now?

[Lyle Craver]

I have no problem (as seconder) with making a 'friendly amendment' if Fred (the mover) is agreeable.

[Christopher Mallon]

It's obvious enough that the Chair could probably just say "If I hear no objections..."

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Just curious... seeing the wording that way, it kinda looks like you could read it as "Everyone in Canada under 18 is granted a membership"

Not correct. (S)He is granted a Junior membership.

I suggest that we add " in place of an Ordinary Membership" to the end.

I don't think that it would change the meaning "granted".

Linguistic question: Does "granted" only mean "for free"? or Does it include a meaning "you still must pay a fee"? (in this particular case "a Junior membership fee")

[Christopher Mallon]

This is from a dictionary for the word "Granted"

2. To accord as a favor, prerogative, or privilege: granted the franchise to all citizens.

No conditions are implied. But even if any were, why not be clear since we're modifying the section anyway? Plus, the other membership types DO mention the purchase of a membership and this one does not.

[Fred McKim]

Chris: I'm open to any change in the wording you want to make