17. Results of voting - "all the details"
Before giving the results, I am advised by the President that motions 2012-I, 2012-J constitutional amendments requiring a 2/3 majority plus minimum quorum (the quorum is achieved).
Here are the results of voting:
Motion 2012-G
YES (28) Aris Marghetis Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Ellen Nadeau Fred McKim Gordon Ritchie Halldor P. Palsson Ilia Bluvshtein Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Les Bunning Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Peter Stockhausen Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Robert Laszlo Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
NO (1) Bob Armstrong
ABSTAIN (1) Michael von Keitz
MOTION PASSES
MOTION 2012-I
YES (17) Bob Armstrong Chris Felix Christopher Field Ellen Nadeau Fred McKim Hugh Brodie Ken Einarsson Lynn Stringer Michael Barron Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
NO (11) Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Gordon Ritchie Hal Bond Halldor P. Palsson Ilia Bluvshtein Kevin Pacey Lyle Craver Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Peter Stockhausen Robert Laszlo
ABSTAIN (5) Aris Marghetis Bob Gillanders Ken Craft Les Bunning Michael von Keitz
MOTION FAILS
MOTION 2012-J
YES (4) Bob Armstrong Fred McKim Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald
NO (24) Aris Marghetis Christopher Field Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Gordon Ritchie Hal Bond Halldor P. Palsson Hugh Brodie Ilia Bluvshtein Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Les Bunning Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Paul Leblanc Peter Stockhausen Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Robert Laszlo Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
ABSTAIN (5) Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Ellen Nadeau Michael von Keitz Simon Ong
MOTION FAILS
MOTION 2012-K
YES (15) Bob Armstrong Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Ellen Nadeau Ilia Bluvshtein Les Bunning Michael Barron Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Robert Laszlo Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Birarov Vladimir Drkulec
NO (15) Aris Marghetis Christopher Field Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Fred McKim Halldor P. Palsson Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Peter Stockhausen Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark
ABSTAIN (3) Hal Bond Hugh Brodie Michael von Keitz
As a tie vote, the President casts his deciding vote as now making the final count 15 - 16 - 2 and the motion fails.
MOTION FAILS
MOTION 2012-M
YES (26) Aris Marghetis Bob Armstrong Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Christopher Field Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Ellen Nadeau Fred McKim Halldor P. Palsson Hugh Brodie Ilia Bluvshtein Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
NO (3) Les Bunning Paul Leblanc Robert Laszlo
ABSTAIN (2) Michael von Keitz Peter Stockhausen
MOTION PASSES
MOTION 2012-N
YES (29) Aris Marghetis Bob Armstrong Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Christopher Field Christopher Mallon Egidijus Zeromskis Ellen Nadeau Fred McKim Hugh Brodie Ilia Bluvshtein Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Les Bunning Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Nikolay Noritsyn Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Peter Stockhausen Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Robert Laszlo Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
NO (1) Halldor P. Palsson
ABSTAIN (1) Michael von Keitz
MOTION PASSES
MOTION 2012-O
YES (6) Christopher Field Egidijus Zeromskis Ellen Nadeau Halldor P. Palsson Nikolay Noritsyn Simon Ong
NO (23) Aris Marghetis Bob Armstrong Bob Gillanders Chris Felix Christopher Mallon Fred McKim Hal Bond Hugh Brodie Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Lyle Craver Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Peter Stockhausen Pierre Dénommée Rob Clark Robert Laszlo Valer Eugen Demian Vladimir Drkulec
ABSTAIN (3) Ilia Bluvshtein Les Bunning Michael von Keitz
MOTION FAILS
MOTION 2012-P
YES (18) Bob Armstrong Bob Gillanders Christopher Mallon Ellen Nadeau Fred McKim Gordon Ritchie Ilia Bluvshtein Ken Craft Ken Einarsson Kevin Pacey Lynn Stringer Mark S. Dutton, I.A. Michael Barron Patrick McDonald Paul Leblanc Pierre Dénommée Simon Ong Valer Eugen Demian
NO (10) Aris Marghetis Chris Felix Christopher Field Halldor P. Palsson Hugh Brodie Lyle Craver Peter Stockhausen Rob Clark Robert Laszlo Vladimir Drkulec
ABSTAIN (4) Egidijus Zeromskis Les Bunning Michael von Keitz Nikolay Noritsyn
MOTION PASSES
Thank you all for your participation in the debates and for your votes.
Lyle Craver
Secretary, Chess Federation of Canada
(PS. I have edited the votes for 2012-K as on the yes side I only had 13 votes in my original posting with Messrs. Birarov and Drkulec left out. Both were cast properly and it seems to be a defect of copying and pasting from the Admin control panel. Apologies to these two gents for the omission)
Motion 2012-P - Challenge to Chair Ruling
Mr. President, Chair of the Meeting
Procedural Challenge - I ask that the Assembly overturn the Chair's ruling that Motion 2012 P is a " constitutional " motion requiring a 2/3 majority. As I understand it, the challenge does not require a seconder. However, if I am wrong on this, I will seek out a seconder so this challenge can be voted on by the Assembly.
Consequence of Successful Challenge - the motion would pass since it garnered over 50% of the vote.
Commentary:
1. To be a constitutional motion, it must seek to amend one of the CFC's 3 By-laws:
From Motion 2010-18, passed at the 2010 AGM, re constitutional amendments:
2. The section [ of By-law # 3, section 3 ( a ) ] as amended is clear:
3. Any amendment or revision of these By-Laws; any matter pertaining to any internationalagreement between the Federation and any international or foreign Chess Federation or Association; and any matter pertaining to the payment of dues to the Fédération International des Échecs may be made,
(a) at any Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting of the Assembly, providing that a notice of intention to submit such matter to a vote has been received by the Secretary at least 30 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting and has been transmitted by the Secretary to each Governor at least 14 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting and that any resolution pertaining to such matter shall be approved by at least a two-thirds majority of the votes of those present and entitled to vote, including proxy votes.
2. Nowhere in By-laws # 1, # 2 nor # 3 is there any reference to an active or blitz rating system. So the Motion 2012-P is clearly outside of the By-laws and not a " constitutional " amendment.
3. Amending the Rules and Regulations of the CFC ( section 2 of the Handbook ) is in my view not a " constitutional " issue, since we are not amending " By-laws ". If the Motion 2012-P falls under it, then it is not a " constitutional " motion. In fact however, there is also no reference to a rating system in that section of the Handbook either.
4. There is a section 3 of the Handbook that deals with " Motions Applicable to No Other Section ". Amending any motion there, or adding a motion there, would not be a " constitutional " amendment. I could not locate a motion there dealing with the rating systems. But it is my view, that that is where Motion 2012-P would have been placed had it passed. Therefore, it is not a " constitutional " amendment.
I ask the Assembly to therefore overturn the Chair's ruling on this motion, and to have the secretary then declare that Motion 2012-P passes.
Bob A
Motion 2012-K - Challenge to Chair Ruling
Mr. President, Chair of the Meeting
Procedural Challenge - I ask that the Assembly overturn the Chair's ruling that Motion 2012-K is a " constitutional " motion requiring a 2/3 majority. As I understand it, the challenge does not require a seconder. However, if I am wrong on this, I will seek out a seconder so this challenge can be voted on by the Assembly.
Commentary:
1. To be a constitutional motion, it must seek to amend one of the CFC's 3 By-laws:
From Motion 2010-18, passed at the 2010 AGM, re constitutional amendments:
"The section [ of By-law # 3, section 3 ( a ) ] as amended is clear:
Any amendment or revision of these By-Laws; any matter pertaining to any international agreement between the Federation and any international or foreign Chess Federation or Association; and any matter pertaining to the payment of dues to the Fédération International des Échecs may be made,
(a) at any Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting of the Assembly, providing that a notice of intention to submit such matter to a vote has been received by the Secretary at least 30 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting and has been transmitted by the Secretary to each Governor at least 14 days prior to the date of such Annual Meeting or Governors' On-line Meeting and that any resolution pertaining to such matter shall be approved by at least a two-thirds majority of the votes of those present and entitled to vote, including proxy votes."
2. Nowhere in By-laws # 1, # 2 nor # 3 is there any reference to prizes awarded to Canadian Junior winners. So the Motion 2012-K is clearly outside of the By-laws and not a " constitutional " amendment.
3. There is a section 10 of the Handbook that deals with " Canadian Junior Chess Championship ". Amending any motion there, or adding a motion there, would not be a " constitutional " amendment. Therefore, it is not a " constitutional " amendment.
I ask the Assembly to therefore overturn the Chair's ruling on this motion.
