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Lyle Craver
04-01-2011, 12:42 AM
Progress Report

OK folks - we've got the poll fixed - but have retained all those who signed on here and will count them too.

For those of you who read this please do 'cast your vote' to make it official - thanks LC

Garland Best
04-01-2011, 09:38 AM
Lyle, It isn't allowing me to sign it, but i can see the poll results, with 4 people signed in.

Bob Gillanders
04-01-2011, 10:19 AM
Me too. I can't vote, not even to sign in. :(

Ken Craft
04-01-2011, 10:32 AM
We're just making it a real closed meeting this time. :)

Halldor P. Palsson
04-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Does this have anything to do with April 1?

Lyle Craver
04-01-2011, 11:23 AM
My apologies to all Governors - the software is behaving as if I have closed the log-in "poll" which is emphatically not true.

For everyone other than the four Governors who successfully "voted", I am still trying to figure out what the problem is and will post a 'sticky' message when the problem is fixed.

Thanks for your patience. LC

Simon Ong
04-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Present for the meeting.
Simon Ong.

Michael von Keitz
04-01-2011, 09:39 PM
Present for the meeting.

Michael von Keitz

Michael Barron
04-01-2011, 09:43 PM
Present for the meeting.

Vladimir Birarov
04-01-2011, 10:08 PM
Present for the meeting.

Aris Marghetis
04-02-2011, 01:10 AM
Present for the meeting

Ellen Nadeau
04-02-2011, 05:32 AM
Present for the meeting
Ellen

Francisco Cabanas
04-02-2011, 10:44 AM
Present for the meeting

Ilia Bluvshtein
04-02-2011, 10:51 AM
Present for the meeting

Egidijus Zeromskis
04-02-2011, 11:09 AM
Present for the meeting.

Stuart Brammall
04-02-2011, 06:34 PM
In place and accounted for.

Mark S. Dutton, I.A.
04-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Present for the meeting

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Hugh Brodie
04-03-2011, 12:11 AM
Present for the meeting.

Ken Einarsson
04-03-2011, 01:15 AM
Present for the meeting.

Hal Bond
04-03-2011, 07:14 AM
I'm here.

Hal Bond

Les Bunning
04-03-2011, 12:21 PM
Please sign me in
Les Bunning

Paul Leblanc
04-03-2011, 02:42 PM
I am also present, handicapped somewhat by playing in a chess tournament in Orlando. I'll try and read into the issues Monday morning.

Christopher Field
04-03-2011, 11:13 PM
Present.
Christopher Field.

Valer Eugen Demian
04-04-2011, 01:25 PM
Have been here since Friday, April 1st.

Bob Armstrong
04-04-2011, 11:51 PM
Hi Lyle:

I now count 26/60 governors having signed in ( only 43 % ). The last two meetings we were at 70 % !!

Do you think we did not do enough flogging of the meeting, far enough in advance? Should the agenda have been posted in advance of the meeting?

What do you think is going on that the attendance so far ( after a full 3 1/2 days ) is so light?

Bob

Daxin Jin
04-05-2011, 08:11 AM
present the meeting

Christopher Mallon
04-05-2011, 09:42 AM
Present for the meeting

Christopher Mallon
04-05-2011, 11:52 PM
Hey, the poll is magically working again too.

Bob Armstrong
04-06-2011, 10:48 PM
After 5 1/2 days, we are still below 50% attendance, by my count: 29/60 governors have signed in ( = 48% ). For the 2010 Fall Meeting and the 2011 Winter Meeting, we had 70 % attendance.

Seems there's a problem here that the Executive has to address.

Bob

Aris Marghetis
04-07-2011, 12:40 AM
After 5 1/2 days, we are still below 50% attendance, by my count: 29/60 governors have signed in ( = 48% ). For the 2010 Fall Meeting and the 2011 Winter Meeting, we had 70 % attendance.

Seems there's a problem here that the Executive has to address.

Bob
Really?! REALLY?!

Les Bunning
04-07-2011, 09:22 AM
You might get better attendance if the meeting was held twice a year instead of 4 times a year. There can always be a special meeting for a particular matter if it is deemed necessary.
Les Bunning

Lyle Craver
04-07-2011, 04:42 PM
Excuse me Bob - but since when are the members of the Executive accountable to the membership for the level of participation by Governors? We do our best to get the best participation possible but at the end of the day if a Governor decides not to take part I and the rest of the Executive are somehow bad people?

I think it would make a whole lot more sense to hold the provincial affiliates responsible since they are the ones who choose the Governors. Many times I (in my role as BCCF Secretary-Treasurer) have stood up in BCCF AGMs and said what the characteristics of a good Governor are and 'this is what we expect of you if you let your name stand in nomination'. In general BC has had a pretty good contingent of Governors through the years and I'd like to think comments like that are part of the reason.

To say that I and the other Board members are deficient because Governors may not sign in is a gratuitous insult to the board - particularly as participation in 2010-11 compares well with past years.

Your remarks are highly offensive - you owe the Executive collectively an apology.

Christopher Mallon
04-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Lyle - I've always thought that publicly and prominently publishing voting records arranged by governor name and province would be an eye opener for some people.

Lyle Craver
04-07-2011, 05:50 PM
I've thought about doing that (I've been keeping GL voting records in a spreadsheet with the columns detailing previous GL's voting records being hidden as I start on new GLs) for several years.

The spreadsheet details each Governors' information and how he/she voted which at the bottom of the list of Governors totals how many voted each way.

I don't think it would be fair to retroactively publish these but anybody sufficiently motivated could extract this info from past GLs.

Chris, does vBulletin allow downloading of voting records at all? There have been something like 43 polls (this number is shown in the Forum Control Panel which only the moderators see) in the course of the Forum - most of these have been straw votes of one sort or another, some public, some not, some Governors only, some for everybody - but are there any vBulletin tools for this?

Christopher Mallon
04-07-2011, 05:56 PM
Yes someone sufficiently motivated could retroactively publish these.... hmmmm :)

You want to download the voting records into what format? I'm sure I could extra the data right out of the database into .xls.... I'd have to see if there is any kind of plugin otherwise.

Lyle Craver
04-07-2011, 06:01 PM
.xls is good heh heh heh